COMMENT ON MEETING AT I-THEMBA ON 27 JUNE I consider the process that has been started to be important because it is more than just a survey of what is going on in the field of physics in SA. It is going to determine the role and influence that the physics community and especially the SAIP will have in SA in future. After having attended the meeting and having read the comments on the web- page I would like to make one, perhaps bold, comment by asking: Isn't this perhaps the decisive moment in history where the SAIP has to decide whether it is an "exclusive" of "inclusive" organisation? We who call ourselves physics educators are boasting that the skills a student learn in physics is so good that physics students are sought after in many other professional sectors, like the financial sector. But these graduated physicists (some with PhD's) are excluded from being members of the SAIP on account of their current careers. Wouldn't the SAIP benefit from recognising them as graduated physicists, giving them the opportunity to play a role in the organisation and inviting them as speakers to give us as well as the public a broader view of how relevant physicists are? We as physicists also claim that physics is the basis of all technology although we seldom get as far as developing technology ourselves. It is often extremely interesting (even if one is not involved in applied research) to hear from the "engineers" how physics principles are applied in the development of technology. Isn't there a way to make the SAIP relevant to these people - by recognising what they do as applied physics, by encouraging them to attend our conferences and workshops? (For example encouraging SAIP members to invite their "technology partners" to present something at the annual conference by reducing the conference fair in such a case; by allowing interested partners some form of associate membership.) As I have understood at the meeting of 27 July the current success of the (British) Institute of Physics is greatly due to their shift towards a more "inclusive" organisation. I think in the process of conducting this survey the SAIP is going to make and communicate a decision of this kind (by who is included and who not, by the status given to institutions and projects). We have to be aware of its consequences. C.M. Steinmann 12 July 2002